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Excellent and timely post, Morgoth. I knew about the Jill Dando and Dr Kelly caes, and I remain troubled by them both, but I wasn't aware of the first two victims. I shall look into them further. As for the official narratives on Ann Widdecombe's murder, John Vernon's classic line in The Outlaw Josey Wales says it best: 'Don't piss down my back and tell me its raining'.

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Regarding Dr David Kelly, my late parents were both Baha'is, and I was raised in that faith until I was 19 and chose to become an Anglican Christian (which I remain to this day).

I chose not to become a member of the Baha'i faith decades ago (you can't even join as a member until after you are 18 as the Baha'is believe your religion must be an educated and free choice). However, being raised in the faith does give me some insights into Dr Kelly's death.

Dr Kelly was the treasurer of the local Baha'is.

When he committed suicide, my mother was deeply upset. She said he must have been highly distressed and it drove him to suicide. My mother accepted it was suicide.

I have my doubts.

The Baha'is are adamantly against suicide; however, people who do commit suicide are forgiven by God in a sea of pardon. God is just and merciful. They are also entitled to a Baha'i funeral. The Baha'i faith remains adamantly against it. Baha'is believe in living your life to its natural end. This is heavily emphasized.

It seems Dr Kelly's faith should be considered as going against the case for suicide. I have never heard of any Baha'is committing suicide--I can't say that for people of other religions I have known.

Either way, Rest in Peace, Dr Kelly.

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