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Terry Bell's avatar

One of your most bare-bones essays. It's undeniable.

Our political system by it's 4 or 5 year nature only looks for the quick fix. They clearly told us in the 90s that the pension timebomb needed a solution - well here it is, import 3rd worlders & hope that they'll slave away & pay tax [do they though?]. It's a Ponzi & long-term when it all falls down, the fallout will be epic.

Let's be honest here, we all know that the political parties are downstream of the international moneymen; those that really call the shots. I think we have to face the question now of - with AI & automation do they actually need us at all anymore? Perhaps what we're seeing over the last few years is the gathering up of the skirts of the privileged few about to make their excuses & leave.

Morgoth's avatar

They certainly don't need the immigrants.

Terry Bell's avatar

When are you going to do one of those train of thought, unscrpited, out for a walk with the dog, talking into the microphone cuts? I know it's unfair to ask but I could really do with just hearing you say that there's some kind of future for our people. You're the Voice afterall. We can't lose all hope.

Morgoth's avatar

I'll do more monologues on here. I'm thinking about doing those phone talks in my greenhouse with my face on, which is where I spend more time than walking the dog these days as she's getting old.

Susanne C.'s avatar

Been through the old dog phase, heartbreaking it was. Our 12 year old shepherd died a year ago this month. My husband was lost without early mornings in the large wooded yard. Eight weeks later we started over with a GSD puppy from a well regarded breeder. She isn’t as loving as our old girl, and she was a lot more work to train ( or are we just getting old?), but she’s a good girl,loves children as much as our last, but also loves people in general which her predecessor did not. She doesn’t bark at every mailman, delivery man, and walker, but she doesn’t purr for pets and cuddles either. We will never stop missing our Heidi though, our best dog ever.

Terry Bell's avatar

I would really like that. Sincerely. Show us your plants, have a chat, talk about peas pudding, stottie bread, the Lambton Worm, Fishing, anything ... cos things are getting reet dark all over & it's deein' nobody any good. [I hope that made you laugh & I hope you get what I mean, I think if it is all coming down we can at least face it with a bit of a smile] - I miss those days when you'd make me laugh out loud hate reading the Guardian & that, you've got a great sense of humour, actually we all do, it's part of being British.

Anyway, I hope you & the family are doing well, I hope the same for all the viewers, we'll get through this if we just keep our tails up.

Al's avatar

ai is already hiring humans to complete small tasks that it physically cannot and Agentic ai is what is being sold to the big corporations with shaky moats right now. They fear the kodak and blockbuster moments where a startup tech replaces them so they're seizing the ai revolution with both hands, stamping on the pedal and hoping that they end out in front by the time they reach the chicane at the end of the straight.. The only jobs left will soon be trades and delivery drivers with a handful of nepatistic style office flunkies acting like they're doing something important. Perhaps ai and delivery bots will finally free us of the savages in balaclavas who roam our streets on ebikes delivering poison.

Morgoth's avatar

How are they going to power those data centres? Is the supply to the general population going to be reduced?

Susanne C.'s avatar

They wanted to build one here in our tiny state that would take up more than half as much electricity as the population is currently using. No explanation on where the power would come from. They seem to be building a huge, windowless building by the interstate highway, but most of these projects are halted for now. They must realize that at the rate of change they will be dinosaurs within a few years.

Terry Bell's avatar

Funny you should mention it. My delivery drivers are becoming noticeably darker, both literally & figuratively. Sullen, pissed-off, grunted-begrudged replies to my cheerful "thanks, I appreciate you coming" from foreign gadgies who look like they hate me. Maybe it's dawning on them that the streets aren't paved with gold.

Spiff's avatar

I've noticed this too. I at first attributed it to language difficulties. But I see a noticeable shift. I've read their cousins in Germany are openly complaining life in the Reich isn't quite what they were promised. So perhaps it is not just here.

Terry Bell's avatar

The Nigerians who I worked with were disappointed. Too cold; they wear parkas on days I'm in a T-shirt, they said the expectations of employers here are far in excess of back home (little things like being expected to turn up on time & not sleep on duty are so "British") &, believe it or not, having to pay lots of tax was unexpected!

I've done delivery driving too & I promise you it's pretty ball-breaking (you get stuck in a traffic jam & your stress levels go through the roof as you've got a set amount of drops to do so you're sitting impotent, fuming), sometimes finding flats or odd house numbers is tricky, you get tickets if you have to park in city centres & it's no fun having to hold on for 8 hours to go to the toilet. Funnily enough a young British lad just delivered to my door, I made sure to give him a bottle of pop which I keep in for our lads. Maybe our best hope for the future is our crappy weather & greedy employers. 😊

Spiff's avatar

The work ethic is quite different. Same with other groups too. We are grafters who tend not to complain. And the weather of course.

So yes, a serious economic downturn might change a lot.

But the DEI stuff has to go. Where I am they are literally interviewing people overseas to meet diversity quotas while many are unemployed. Absolutely criminal.

Al's avatar

Yes I've noticed that they seem to be a fair bit more sullen and resentful these days. On the one hand this makes them far more likely to be dangerous but on the other it might have the bonus effect of deterring more of them. I can't wait for the day when they're all kindly given flights back home.

Terry Bell's avatar

Roger that Ghostrider! That is a big affirmative.

Spiff's avatar

I am not sure what your final point means. Do you mean the affluent are leaving Britain for pastures new?

Terry Bell's avatar

Well they are but I meant that I think IF we are heading for some kind of world-wide economic collapse/riots/martial law/all that/ the super-rich appear to have been carefully making arrangements by building resorts on Hawaii, in old Mid-West missile bunkers & apparently New Zealand for some time now. Yes it's pretty much the plot of Ben Eltons "Stark" but if, worst case scenario (for us), I think the money-power has made arrangements to be safe & sound. They won't be fighting it out in the ruins of your local Asda for the last tin of beans. As was discussed here a couple of weeks ago, this safe normalcy could disappear in a matter of days or weeks if what some are predicting comes true. We've had 2 major conflicts that could've flared into WW3 recently, our country is being over-run by terrorist sleeper-cells (some say), another global pandemic is not off the charts & the demons at the WEF, Bilderberg, Club of Rome etc are the only ones with any chance of getting out alive (for a while).

Christ I sound like David Icke! 🤣

What do you think? Have I lost my marbles?

Spiff's avatar

I have these concerns too. The weakest part of it is the elites in NZ or elsewhere. If that is their plan I think that is the part that would fail. Bodyguards are normal people after all.

I am not convinced the powerful ever want collapse or even serious unrest. They may fund a little agitation, but localised and with the view it is fully under their control.

But with the energy situation, fertiliser running low and the fact we import most of our food, things could go south quickly. We also have a lot more mouths to feed these days. I would not be surprised if the bureaucrats imagine a new Covid but this time with food shortages.

I am not sure. But I do know we are now a fragmented nation. But maybe a calamity like this would bring people together.

John Mattingley's avatar

The ‘aging population’ scare is very much overdone.

I had a conversation recently with some inveterate normies. They were convinced that the population of care homes in the Yookay is in excess of five million. Not an uncommon view it seems.

It is in fact not even one tenth of that - and reducing (various ‘measures’ shall we say, doing their work).

That is manageable with native workers and perhaps a smidgen of immigrants - rather like Japan, which genuinely does have a large elderly population.

But unlike Japan we do not have a current account surplus or national savings with which to ameliorate the problem.

Since 1971 we transferred £9trillion of productive capital into non-productive assets: houses, largely for short term economic boosts to ensure middle-class tax-paying normies (they pay most of the tax) voted to keep the system as is.

Then for the last 30 years we spent what little income was left over produced by productive capital on favoured and inevitably foreign client groups in order to buy votes; again to keep the system as is.

However, the ‘system’ is now at, indeed past, its limit. Turchin’s view that financial crisis plus elite over-production plus immiseration of the population result in inevitable revolution looks to be coming true.

It’s going to be rough. Very rough. But I believe we will emerge poorer, but happier.

What we need to make sure is that it is us that comes out the other side on top; not a group of those unemployed and unemployable surplus to requirement elites.

John's avatar

Fantastic essay I had a contentious conversation with my father circling around these ideas in January. He wanted to bomb Iran, and I said that would be dumb…So many of our elders are trapped in the dichotomy of Islam bad, Jews good. They can’t see how supporting the invasion is supporting the same regime that wants to eradicate white people from our homelands. So many useful idiots. So many “conservatives” whose policy might as well be gay race communism.

James Hunt's avatar

I always go back to my basic labour voting working class roots. The migrants were thrown in to discombobulate and divide the working class.

Spiff's avatar

I think it is a combination. Given who is selected to stand to be an MP I have no doubt many of them believe we need endless immigrants to do the jobs the lazy natives won't do. I know people who actually believe this.

However, I do think the divide and conquer angle is there too. I suspect they find it funny. Class warfare by other means etc.

Dissident Finance's avatar

Migrants serve so many purposes. Divide and conquer. Eliminate the possibility of resistance through democratic means. Cheap labor if you ignore all of the social costs and government/NGO subsidies. And of course the Great Replacement if looking at how aggressively they have accelerated politically unpopular open borders across Europe and the Anglosphere.

Spiff's avatar

I think your final point is important. Are we a people? Yes we are. Or, rather, some of us are. Our cultural enemies seem to be anywheres, and they view the somewheres with contempt. That has given them advantages in this culture war; Canada's PM used to govern the Bank of England, for example. Easy moving opens up opportunities not available to those anchored to a place.

But I think they cannot grasp patriotism. They cannot conceive of being part of a people, so I think they discount it. And I think that is a mistake because they are taking everything else from us. It is all we will have left.

I myself feel a growing affinity for people outside Britain; the Irish, the Americans, the Canadians, Australians and New Zealanders. South Africans too of course. Perhaps an unintended side effect of the cultural vice we find ourselves in.

Swedish Saiyan's avatar

>it isn’t “restorative” but revolutionary in its outcomes.

This is an extremely important point that needs to be hammered. We have to own that our proposals are radical and revolutionary. We are talking about a complete restructure of the state bureaucracy, economy, cultural policy, judicial system, foreign policy and not least the demographics.

Trying to claim the position as a moderate, or calling oneself a "centrist", is simply untrue and will probably come across as incredibly disingenuous. Because it is. And it will be called out as untrue aswell.

Just as an example. If you actually have mass deportations the demand on the housing markets would collapse and house prices would crater. Great, IF you don't own a house. In my country, the house loans have the house itself as safety. If the value drops, nothing backs the loan, meaning the banks will demand repayments. This will massively decrease consumption and make many homeless and ruined. This will cause a massive recession.

You can say that this shouldn't matter and "the're all going back", but everybody that doesn't want to have a massive recession or have house loans will care and will want answers.

Since I'm a nationalist who puts the people first, I have no qualms about fixing interest rents and nationalizing banks. But I wouldn't call that a moderate position.

Ploppy, Son of Ploppy's avatar

It's quite sad that this still needs to be said. As always you say it very well though.

Oswald longshanks's avatar

Iran has the backing explicitly of china and Russia , even if try are not directly involved , they are supplying intel and weapons , reciprocity is the language of international relations, Russia has Ukraine (fighting NATO ) and USreal has Iran(fighting russia and china). Oue only chance at survival may be the collapse and withdrawal of the Jewmerican empire away from Europe so all it's cucked leaders can be disposed without having a garrison of us marines arrive if we try to correct the insanity