The "system" is clearly all out to destroy Restore (particularly the Telegraph under new ownership). The attacks have been relentless.
So it's been great to see Restore not cuck on banning Kosher slaughter, not backing British involvement in the Iran war, not having a Friends of Israel lobby group inside the party and even backed Charlie Downes when he called Israel's actions in Gaza a genocide.
With respect to the Elite Theorists (who's sense of 'humour' can be sick, juvenile and degenerate) Restore has been a net positive.
Even if we think we can't vote ourselves out this at a national level they could become an important vehicle for our agenda.
It's a new organisation, things will not run smooth but we should at least support those inside the party/ movement who want to pull it in OUR direction.
In retrospect Restore seem more effective when it was a pressure group with mass support rather a Political Party... Following Tony Blair's NGO model may be a much more effective and less restricted way forward
I get the sense this all boils down to pride. AA, Scrump, Evelyn, Blambas, etc are all intelligent, well-read and thoroughly accustomed to being the smartest person in the room everywhere they go. They're all smarter than me by a country mile. A consistent pattern in such individuals is that they live in perpetual horror of being proven wrong. The worldview is such that you can't be a giga-brained savant and wrong at the same time. The prime driver of all behaviour is ensuring that they cannot be publicly humiliated by being proven wrong, rather than putting their shoulder to the common goal.
The Elite Theorists have done us all a great service by reintroducing us all the rules of the game, but they are all ultimately outsiders whose opinions should be ignored from this point. They won't risk their reputation for anything. They won't be overruled without melting down. They'll burn down the cities to avoid being proven wrong. There is a good reason no intellectual has been at the front of a faction that achieves anything. They can't play well with others because narcissism forbids it from the outset. They've done tremendous work, but it is time to step over them.
For me I consider the episode over, I've always said people shouldn't do the character attacks, but overall I've seen enough to consider Restore compromised -- the latest red flag is getting behind Danny Tommo, one of the most flagrant honeypots in recent memory. I don't believe it's the fault of the lads, the problem is with Rupert himself, it is what it is. I got my assessment of his character wrong. I encourage people to de-slop their brains, get off Twitter and all the rest of the stuff I've said. We are not going to find salvation in politics, and certainly not with the vehicles currently on the map. If people want to disagree and cling onto copes and hopes, that's up to them, but I think in my own case clinging to Restore or Tucker was unhealthy and I'm happier having let them go -- it's more clarifying. I could have done without the drama too, but the internet is going to do what it's going to do and obviously some other people relish it. I feel like this whole little arc was like a Godfather III meme or "one last go around" for me, as I've largely left news and whatnot behind. I have a very dim view of the current British right scene as I've laid out recently, and my honest advice for old heads is to put some daylight between yourself and the legion plastic patriots you see on Twitter now. I think it's all headed for "British MAGA", first time as tragedy, second time as farce, it's better to get out early and while you still can.
I felt they’d been proven largely correct. I had defended Restore for most of the summer against attacks by Blamblas etc and felt badly let down by what I saw, so I brought them on and promoted a few streams. I would prefer more maturity from them, but "some people can start a fight on their own in a lift” as they say. I wrote an article from a while back on the impossibility of organisation owing to the sort of personality types one finds against the current order (see “The Impossibility of Political Organisation for the Online Right”). Like I’ve always told you when this specific issue comes up, the bench of people working in any remotely similar lane to me isn’t that deep. It would be EASY to fall out with them, but then what? This is what I was saying before, about 10 people in the world who truly get it, and you’ve got Striker and whoever else calling each other names in front of the 8 others. I think the people you’re talking about, despite their numerous personal issues, get it and there aren’t that many others who do — honestly judging from the Tommo thing even less than I thought. Anyone reading: have a nice Saturday btw. I have to get off here before it gets too much like Twitter.
Let's not pretend saying Tommy Robinson and his crew are a Zionist op is new and cutting analysis when literally everyone on the Nationalist right has been saying so for 15 years.
If you hadn't siloed yourself off with these freaks and weirdos, you might not have these delusions of grandeur.
It's sad, but you've made your bed. I have no doubt more drama streams will drop next week, and you'll promote them too.
If it’s been self-evident for 15 years, you might want to take a look at most of the people you’re currently in bed with going ga ga over Tommo in Portsmouth. People are now so moronic they’ll call you an unheroic blackpiller for pointing out what you claim here is level 1 analysis known to every so-called nationalist. In such an environment I’m happy to be alone.
The 'Elite Theorists' have been correct in some of the analysis, but the posturing has gone too far. The 'drama' has come out of left-field and I can't really understand why Morgoth of all people would be singled-out. To be fair to Scrump, he did tone down one particularly egregious Telegram post when I questioned the wording, but it didn't stop there, sadly. I just don't see what could possibly be achieved by it. Blamblas, I have to say, is not nearly impressive enough to have waded in to this and would do well to wind his neck in. The tempestuousness of youth can only be used as an excuse for so much. It reminds me of the Joel Davis clash a few years ago in terms of the tone and unwarranted invective.
Looking at the Restore situation, I've not put £20 in the pot because I'm not convinced of its potential, but nor do I see it as 'over'. Is there any evidence for it being over? It's still there, isn't it? I completely agree with the criticisms of it, but it remains to be seen whether Team Boomer will win out. The party has existed for mere months. Perhaps its course can be corrected, for what it's worth, which may not be very much considering the scale of the problem the country faces, but it's not hurting. I've never agreed with the idea that we should all either do one thing or another. Some people will not be content with endless theorising and learning, while some are quite happy doing just that. Fine. Each to their own. I don't see much - if any - Tommytardism or slopulism in the comments sections of anyone in the 'sphere'. Which is why this spat came as a surprise.
It´s sad that you, Mr. Morgoth, felt the need to write this piece, though I fully understand why you did.
I am not from the United Kingdom, but find that the British dissident content creators are, pound for pound, the best in the Anglosphere and probably in the world (some Brit already observed this, perhaps AA or Woes). I think of the work of Mr. Morgoth and AA´s Deepest Lore as the equivalent of $200 French wine (at least what I imagine such wine to be), not to mention AAs great thinker series. The friendship between you guys makes it even greater.
I think the current tension could have been avoided. I would expect AA to always be more critical of real political movements like Restore in practice - which criticism, when well-meaning, can of course be a good thing - but I think a dangerous dose of very unpleasant and unnecessary nastiness - to which AA is not prone - has been introduced by certain people that just like to sow division and see this scene burn. The ugly lack of empathy of these people has been on display on other occasions as well and cannot lead to good results.
I also think that some of the more purist elite theorists have such a dim view of electoral participartion because the British state in particular has been and continues to be so effective in containment. From difficulties in practice in Britain some things are declared futile from the beginning everywhere and at all times in history with mathematical certainty. That conclusion is, I think, way overdrawn.
In any case, I sincerely hope that the well-meaning people in the British online dissident scene - and I would count AA and you, Mr. Morgoth, as first and foremost among these - can overcome this discord.
I think we are all about to be overtaken by events.
We are facing an energy cliff, food riots, massive civil unrest, and WW3. I have always been convinced the violence will come from the migrants and the left, not the 'far-right' as the DT tells it. The left, the migrants (who are probably heavily armed and organized already), will be the first to kick it off.
What you need is the right mind set. You have to be ready to lose everything and move forward immediately. You are dealing with hordes of people who only know war, killing, and destruction--not building for the future or maintaining anything. (Cue the complexity crisis which evidenced itself last week at the airports in the UK). You have to be ready to accept that your world is about to change and might not return to any kind of normal in your lifetime. Accept that, and you will way ahead of everyone else.
All this drama strikes me as urban wank. No different to the leftists debating the labour theory of value while never having had a proper job.
Back in the real world, the normie boomers in my village have been shaken to the core during the holidays by Sikh couples turning up from Birmingham and Coventry looking for houses out here in remotest Devon; citing increasing religious tensions and safety issues as Islam flexes its territorial power up norf.
They are even meeting to plan how to make the village sustainable and resilient against the civil war and/or WW3.
Did they welcome the Sikhs, or resent their presence? Be interested to know if people's concerns stretch to them after the Nowak shenanigans. They have big families, so when one family moves in...
It’s near wall to wall LibDem down here Spiff, so one would think that an excess of soggy thinking and misplaced empathy would mean a welcome for the Sikhs. It didn’t.
Post-holiday pub and church talk revealed concerns arising from the Novak killing: the “Sikhs are the good browns” myth seems to have died along with poor Novak.
I am surprised (and frankly, relieved) to find a hitherto carefully hidden ethnic awareness among my neighbours. Worries about a house price collapse are of course near the front of minds too but by no means exclusively.
They see the destruction of their genteel market towns as well: fourteen Turkish barbers and a vape shop on every corner in towns of a few of thousand. They can no longer fool themselves it’s not happening.
We have Somalians living in the rare instances of social housing. Since everyone knows everyone round here they know whose kids and grandkids are on the housing list, newborns, toddlers and all, and it angers folk. Quite rightly.
With the “rub their noses in diversity” program this government is pursuing, wittingly or unwittingly, it appears it’s doing sterling job of recruiting for Restore.
I remember Carl Benjamin saying that the Lib Dems are in fact the party who represents the white British (or middle England at least), though they themselves would never frame it that way. Always thought there's something to that. I'm from an area that generally votes Lib Dem for local council and used to have one as the MP for many years. It's 'Refugees welcome...but just not in our nice area round here.'
LibDems to Restore seems like quite a jump, lol. But glad to see even Middle England is waking up. We may save Blighty yet.
And I think the Sikhs took a beating thanks to Nowak. They are also casualties of the scale of immigration. Many have predicted colour blindness only really happens when you are 98 percent homogenous. Once you are heading for minority status that indulgence is jettisoned. The Sikhs have hardly been a burden but I doubt they will do well when things collapse.
Agree wholeheartedly with the piece, especially the motte and bailey comment. Out of a desire to avoid catiness, I'll withhold my views on most of the elite theory gang, but I do like and respect Neema and think he's had many interesting and novel theories over the years (or at least, good meta-analyses of historical thinkers' theories). That said, he's human like us all, and slipping into mere rhetoric has long been a regrettable feature of his argumentation style.
The unstated assumption of the elite theorists is that Restore-adjacent people think we're going to achieve full regime change. I don't know a single person who thinks that outside of the boomers and the proles. No one who's been in the elite theory space for the past decade is saying we'll achieve actual regime change. We can look at instances of regime change throughout history and see the preconditions: the regime must have reached such a point of collapse that it cannot effectively run its security apparatus or provide bread and circuses for the proles, then an (usually) armed revolution rotates its elite (usually) by force. We quite obviously are not in that state in modern Britain, and I don't think anyone outside of 'Tommo' types pretends we are.
This means the various criticisms telling us the certainty of oligarchy in a regime in the current mode are entirely irrelevant. No one claims otherwise. Lowe's or others' character is wholly irrelevant to this point: it is a structural question of the mode of the regime, not a question of its opposition. There is much I am tempted to say here about how the now -- usually insultingly -- presented arguments against Restore bear little relation to Neema's original reasons for supporting it, but I will again attempt to maintain a line against catiness.
So why do those of us who support Restore continue to support it? This should be blindingly obvious to the elite theorists, but apparently it requires spelling out. To anyone soberly analysing the financial trajectory of the American Empire and its satellites it is clear that it is in its last days. 'AI' is a desparate last attempt to make the maths work, and as someone with professional insider knowledge of that field, I would bet large amounts of money that it isn't going to make the maths work. That means the regime will eventually, and probably within our lifetimes, enter the mode necessary for regime change: the funds will run out, the onerously expensive security state will be defunded, and so too will the bread and circuses.
When that happens, the most organised and determined group will seize power. Restore gives a vehicle for such likeminded people to get together in the safe hugbox of liberal democracy and forge these connections now. No, real change cannot be effected right now, but those same action-oriented relationships can be used to effect change when the conditions are right. This, indeed, is the theory of the basketweavers groups. Restore is just a more action-oriented continuation of the theme. In the interim, in the unlikely chance we should manage to achieve 'power' within democracy, we could at least take action to make conditions more favourable in the inevitable end; fewer foreingers, fewer power nodes for our enemies.
The utility of this should be obvious, but to some it appears that if we can't have Lenin there's no point in any of it. This is just as juvenile and low impulse as supporting Glowie Tommo because "he's doing something now". The regime change is decades away, but it's coming, and sniping on the internet isn't going to provide sufficient organisation when it does come.
All of this. Over here even Normie is increasingly aware that the economic rot is too deep to be reversed, to whatever little degree that matters. Serious people are organizing without illusion about durability of the system. Yes, the process may take decades, but the beating heart of the Empire very well could implode relatively soon and suddenly along the lines of the old USSR. The UK/continental Europe will have a heads up if that happens, which is quite possible, and hopefully can take advantage of it.
Missed hearing from you last month or so Morgoth. Enjoyed the article and you make a lot a valid points. You underestimate how much of a comfort some of your takes or musings have been over last decade or so. I have found them invaluble
Older I get the more averse I to drama. This is the toxic shit I had to endure decades ago when working in office full of middle aged women. Growing up in 80s never rememeber seeing grown men engaged in this behaviour. Social Media drama to make 'content' just degrades all involved... Poisoned Chalace
I guess it boils down to a sense of Loyalty/Trust/ Empathy vs Ego/Pride and need to be seen as 'called it'. The Scrump guy and Trans type couple - barely watched before. Watching the stream w AA took immediate dislike.... They remind me of snarky Reddit posters. AA is an academic though. If you have ever worked with them, they have a blind spot for those speak similar language to them (even when it is clear they are not well intentioned) - Academic autism of sorts.
AA has always spoken very highly of you. Rare that he doesn't mention some of your articles or posts or insights. As I said, I agree with all you have said in this article. AA has been short sighted, insensitive and his instincts on this have been ill judged (but we are all human). I geniunely don't think there was malicious intent (particularly toward you). The academic 'soy crowd' are a bad influence - not because their theories are RIGHT/WRONG but because of their behaviour does not relfect good character or intent.
Be shame to see two my favourite commentators fall out.
This drama also serves for me to underline the spiritual value of compassion. The people in AA's circle, including AA himself, often express themselves with a lack of compassion for other thinkers, activists and patriots. Calling people morons, calling everything slop. It sounds like a bitter old man in a high tower, clinging to delusions of intellectual superiority. "But I'M the galaxy brain!! I have the blueprints!!". Nationalism is becoming popular and that means that people with less developed intellect, including younger people, are getting into it. The effort to spit down on these people is not something I approve of personally. I'm really not interested in unsympathetic critiques of "The Right"- as you said in the piece Morgoth, we're doomed enough as it is.
As you said, when you boil it down, most of the insights of advanced political analysis can be distilled down to simple truisms which most people who ponder the subject for a few years, are going to arrive at anyway. Organized groups prevail over unorganized masses. Most populist parties are heavily infiltrated. Duh.
The solution to this problem we are facing, is so vast and protean. It cannot be accurately foreseen. It's heavily linked with elements of the spiritual, the fantastical, the collective subconscious, and numerous egregores. It's a world-historical problem of the greatest proportions, the battle for the future of the Western World. We can't really chart its course or say when it will finally end. We can't say if we will prevail, or be completely destroyed, or something in between. Accepting this state of unknowing is important for maintaining the intellectual humility to just put one foot in front of the other, day by day. I don't have the blueprints, you don't have the blueprints, nobody knows who will be living in our cities, 100 years from now. Will it be us, or some other people-group? But we keep going in faith and love and loyalty.
My sympathy for the common man is another area where I tend to disagree with the elite theorists, though it's less inflammatory than this article. I do not think they're just mindless potatoes, and I think there's a genuine sense of terror and dread spreading through the population that matters.
I too have this. I feel a much stronger affinity for the masses than theorists or the managerial class that has emerged in my lifetime. All around me I see many working people, the backbone of our society. Truly irreplaceable, and often doing jobs you never see imports do anyway. If they are destroyed everything goes with it.
I dislike the disdain some on the right have for normal people not getting it, not understanding the detail, hoping Farage and Reform will reverse immigration, sharing Tommy Robinson videos etc. They are normal, they are living their lives, not reading up on elite theory. They are doing their best to make sense of a senseless situation.
I think some are too quick to dismiss others in an attempt to appear superior. We see this a lot with progressives. You are against immigration because you are a bigot and therefore dismissible. Arrogance is a disability.
That sense of terror and dread is a genuine change in the psychology of our peoples. (I'm in America, but the same thing is happening). The prosperity and safety which our peoples have enjoyed for maybe 500 years, maybe much more, now sees the first appearance of a credible threat.
It changes the waters in which we swim, and the future potentials across the board.
That sympathy for the common man is what distinguishes your work. It is sincere. The way in which my generation, (I’m a tail end boomer to my shame) and the one following have effectively divorced themselves from their working class and ethnic roots disgusts me, even though anyone with half an education realizes almost everyone was, of necessity, a peasant. The bourgeoisie was a small class that grew from nothing at a pretty recent date.
What happens to the common man is what happens to us. They are not going to ask our IQ before whatever horrible fate befalls us if it comes to that.
During Covid the Canadian truckers came closest to teaching the bourgeoisie how much they relied on working class men doing jobs they don't spend any time thinking about. I am convinced that is why we now see so many Indians in that field.
Are they causing as many accidents over there as they are here? It used to be that you could be very confident of the driving skills of truckers. Now they wobble and scare the daylights out of you on high speed roads.
I see it as a variant of Pascal's Wager: if we are doomed, you don't lose that much by entertaining cautious hope within a probability matrix; if we aren't all doomed, you potentially lose everything by refusing to even try to win. It's also not as black & white as the Elite Wankers make out, hope and trust exist on a broad spectrum, not as a 0 or 100% binary. The Wankers like to present anyone who supports Restore as a credulous Two Tommies clown, but for me at least it was always cat-stepping, 80% low expectations, 20% hope, there's no way I would attend a Two Tommies rally, nor did I expect Lowe could staff Restore with Thomas777 disciples.
Still got love for AA, never had any for the weirdos, I'm sure they're smart, smarter and better read than me, but I can get smart takes elsewhere without the smug weirdness.
Incidentally the Two Tommies are obviously bad actors but they can't totally control the theatre, the audience may well take away some useful ideas in spite of the overall intent.
I think Restore's main usefulness is pushing the Overton window and giving people something to share with normies.
I know normal people are follwing Lowe on social platforms. People online are far too quick to dismiss this, including AA who seems to view the online world as nothing more than an echo chamber. But we forget most are clueless. They have no concept even of immigration volumes, a fairly simple concept and yet it is obscured by the mainstream.
The vast majority have never heard a good argument against immigration as the regime narrative is everywhere, from posters to announcements to soap opera plotlines. For many it is shocking to read respectable people want to reverse immigration and this plants a seed. I think we overlook the importance of this work. Many need help to wake up. Dismissing it as useless because Lowe won't get 500 MPs at the next election misses the point.
Agree, I also think the Tommo thing is useful in presenting the idea that immigration is invasion, that our police and government are against us. Sure, it's probably intended as a honeypot, to justify crackdowns, harsh new laws etc, but it's also seeding vivid impressions of invasion and the need for white men to organise and stand together against not merely the invaders but our own government. The regime cannot manage perceptions 100%.
I don't think Restore will ever get into power, but it's as well to remember the AfD was at about 13% recently, and is now almost double that nationally, up to 40% in Sachsen-Anhalt. And as you say, even if Restore stay at 7% they are useful as a goad to Farage.
I agree. The regime cannot manage everything. Also they do cock it up sometimes. Look at those anti-rape leaflets the Home Office produced. Total own goal. So even a honeypot operation may not go as intended.
I also think our current batch of leaders are genuinely third-rate. So I have no belief they can maintain things for much longer. The very aggressive promotion of non-natives is ruffling many feathers. That is making people uncomfortable despite the hype. Being lectured by people from Liberia and Ghana is astonishing.
I think immigration has to be seen as vulgar for it to begin to go away. Also importing from the third world has to be seen as us exploiting them for the majority to turn against it. It gives normal people an out.
By the way, Morgoth, if you ever do Excalibur with Endeavour, think of the Elite Wankers when Perceval enters the plague-ridden village and encounters Mad Lancelot, Lancelot has abandoned the order and become a prophet of doom, he is enraged when he sees Perceval as his erstwhile squire has stayed true to the quest. I've found that the dooomers and Denethors are often full of hatred and contempt, not for the orcs but for those who still fight, still hope.
As Perceval puts it later, ironically enough in a Welsh accent, "I can't give up hope, Lancelot: it's all I have."
I agree. Pessimism brings a simplicity that is mistaken for clarity. It artificially obscures the ambiguities real life brings by dismissing them. Defeat is never certain. Few predicted the fall of the Soviet Union even near the end.
Good observation about the hate. I have often wondered why some on the right seem like this. They perhaps envy the fighting spirit in others they no longer possess like an old woman condemning some pretty younger woman.
One would think, that creatives sensitive to "slop" or especially the dreaded "slopulism" would themselves attempt to avoid engaging in such counterproductive behavior, but something something revealed preferences.
Been watching AA for years, still got time for his work but been watching much less lately. I soured on Scrump and Evelyn some years ago. The latter in particular, they called me out in a YT stream because I said something like 'Toby Young's Lockdown Skeptics website kept me sane during the coof'. There's many valid criticisms of Young and the Free Speech Union, but that organisation is more than those two have ever built. And I remember AA stating that the FSU really helped him when he lost his job in academia.
I can't stand 'fell for it again', something really spiteful about it. I don't hate the normal people who go to Tommy rallies, put up the flags, vote for Trump or Reform. Even if those people are cringe, misguided or obnoxious. I don't see the answer to be simping for Jeremy Corbyn or the Green Party or any other clear enemies. I'm all for realism, but there's a point at which it tips into nihilism. There's a lot to be said for moderating interaction with the news & politics, be it on here, youtube, twitter. It's something I increasingly find myself doing. But complete retreat and withdrawal can't be the answer. The illegal migration issue can be all slop and kayfabe, until they're in your street. Maybe even in leafy Surrey...
With as long as you’ve been at this it’s felt absurd seeing the lack of respect and bad faith. I’ve read Populist Delusion and Prophets of Doom, but I don’t read those books without Morgoth essays first. Scrump and Evelyn are fine analysts, I can look past the lifestyle, but this flame war is worse.
I'll be a little quiet over the next week because I have some family stuff coming.
Sir, whatever it is, I hope it turns out well.
It's fine, just a bit of a get-together.
The "system" is clearly all out to destroy Restore (particularly the Telegraph under new ownership). The attacks have been relentless.
So it's been great to see Restore not cuck on banning Kosher slaughter, not backing British involvement in the Iran war, not having a Friends of Israel lobby group inside the party and even backed Charlie Downes when he called Israel's actions in Gaza a genocide.
With respect to the Elite Theorists (who's sense of 'humour' can be sick, juvenile and degenerate) Restore has been a net positive.
Even if we think we can't vote ourselves out this at a national level they could become an important vehicle for our agenda.
It's a new organisation, things will not run smooth but we should at least support those inside the party/ movement who want to pull it in OUR direction.
There is a genuine risk of having all our eggs in that basket, which is why I'm hoping there are some offshoot organisations soon.
There will be--not just in the UK, but everywhere across the West.
Mainstream parties have completely failed to protect their voters, and it's obvious to everyone, even to the NPCs.
In retrospect Restore seem more effective when it was a pressure group with mass support rather a Political Party... Following Tony Blair's NGO model may be a much more effective and less restricted way forward
I get the sense this all boils down to pride. AA, Scrump, Evelyn, Blambas, etc are all intelligent, well-read and thoroughly accustomed to being the smartest person in the room everywhere they go. They're all smarter than me by a country mile. A consistent pattern in such individuals is that they live in perpetual horror of being proven wrong. The worldview is such that you can't be a giga-brained savant and wrong at the same time. The prime driver of all behaviour is ensuring that they cannot be publicly humiliated by being proven wrong, rather than putting their shoulder to the common goal.
The Elite Theorists have done us all a great service by reintroducing us all the rules of the game, but they are all ultimately outsiders whose opinions should be ignored from this point. They won't risk their reputation for anything. They won't be overruled without melting down. They'll burn down the cities to avoid being proven wrong. There is a good reason no intellectual has been at the front of a faction that achieves anything. They can't play well with others because narcissism forbids it from the outset. They've done tremendous work, but it is time to step over them.
I think the others mainly just copied AA's work, but I take the point.
Blamblas isn't intelligent, he's a dimwit.
For me I consider the episode over, I've always said people shouldn't do the character attacks, but overall I've seen enough to consider Restore compromised -- the latest red flag is getting behind Danny Tommo, one of the most flagrant honeypots in recent memory. I don't believe it's the fault of the lads, the problem is with Rupert himself, it is what it is. I got my assessment of his character wrong. I encourage people to de-slop their brains, get off Twitter and all the rest of the stuff I've said. We are not going to find salvation in politics, and certainly not with the vehicles currently on the map. If people want to disagree and cling onto copes and hopes, that's up to them, but I think in my own case clinging to Restore or Tucker was unhealthy and I'm happier having let them go -- it's more clarifying. I could have done without the drama too, but the internet is going to do what it's going to do and obviously some other people relish it. I feel like this whole little arc was like a Godfather III meme or "one last go around" for me, as I've largely left news and whatnot behind. I have a very dim view of the current British right scene as I've laid out recently, and my honest advice for old heads is to put some daylight between yourself and the legion plastic patriots you see on Twitter now. I think it's all headed for "British MAGA", first time as tragedy, second time as farce, it's better to get out early and while you still can.
You repeatedly promoted and platformed the drama created by people I warned you years ago were toxic.
I felt they’d been proven largely correct. I had defended Restore for most of the summer against attacks by Blamblas etc and felt badly let down by what I saw, so I brought them on and promoted a few streams. I would prefer more maturity from them, but "some people can start a fight on their own in a lift” as they say. I wrote an article from a while back on the impossibility of organisation owing to the sort of personality types one finds against the current order (see “The Impossibility of Political Organisation for the Online Right”). Like I’ve always told you when this specific issue comes up, the bench of people working in any remotely similar lane to me isn’t that deep. It would be EASY to fall out with them, but then what? This is what I was saying before, about 10 people in the world who truly get it, and you’ve got Striker and whoever else calling each other names in front of the 8 others. I think the people you’re talking about, despite their numerous personal issues, get it and there aren’t that many others who do — honestly judging from the Tommo thing even less than I thought. Anyone reading: have a nice Saturday btw. I have to get off here before it gets too much like Twitter.
Let's not pretend saying Tommy Robinson and his crew are a Zionist op is new and cutting analysis when literally everyone on the Nationalist right has been saying so for 15 years.
If you hadn't siloed yourself off with these freaks and weirdos, you might not have these delusions of grandeur.
It's sad, but you've made your bed. I have no doubt more drama streams will drop next week, and you'll promote them too.
Dear Mr. Morgoth, Dear Dr. Parvini,
I am but a humble follower of yours and, on top of that, just a foreigner.
I implore you to get together over a pint or two in a pub. Thank you.
If it’s been self-evident for 15 years, you might want to take a look at most of the people you’re currently in bed with going ga ga over Tommo in Portsmouth. People are now so moronic they’ll call you an unheroic blackpiller for pointing out what you claim here is level 1 analysis known to every so-called nationalist. In such an environment I’m happy to be alone.
The 'Elite Theorists' have been correct in some of the analysis, but the posturing has gone too far. The 'drama' has come out of left-field and I can't really understand why Morgoth of all people would be singled-out. To be fair to Scrump, he did tone down one particularly egregious Telegram post when I questioned the wording, but it didn't stop there, sadly. I just don't see what could possibly be achieved by it. Blamblas, I have to say, is not nearly impressive enough to have waded in to this and would do well to wind his neck in. The tempestuousness of youth can only be used as an excuse for so much. It reminds me of the Joel Davis clash a few years ago in terms of the tone and unwarranted invective.
Looking at the Restore situation, I've not put £20 in the pot because I'm not convinced of its potential, but nor do I see it as 'over'. Is there any evidence for it being over? It's still there, isn't it? I completely agree with the criticisms of it, but it remains to be seen whether Team Boomer will win out. The party has existed for mere months. Perhaps its course can be corrected, for what it's worth, which may not be very much considering the scale of the problem the country faces, but it's not hurting. I've never agreed with the idea that we should all either do one thing or another. Some people will not be content with endless theorising and learning, while some are quite happy doing just that. Fine. Each to their own. I don't see much - if any - Tommytardism or slopulism in the comments sections of anyone in the 'sphere'. Which is why this spat came as a surprise.
And thank you for naming names.
It´s sad that you, Mr. Morgoth, felt the need to write this piece, though I fully understand why you did.
I am not from the United Kingdom, but find that the British dissident content creators are, pound for pound, the best in the Anglosphere and probably in the world (some Brit already observed this, perhaps AA or Woes). I think of the work of Mr. Morgoth and AA´s Deepest Lore as the equivalent of $200 French wine (at least what I imagine such wine to be), not to mention AAs great thinker series. The friendship between you guys makes it even greater.
I think the current tension could have been avoided. I would expect AA to always be more critical of real political movements like Restore in practice - which criticism, when well-meaning, can of course be a good thing - but I think a dangerous dose of very unpleasant and unnecessary nastiness - to which AA is not prone - has been introduced by certain people that just like to sow division and see this scene burn. The ugly lack of empathy of these people has been on display on other occasions as well and cannot lead to good results.
I also think that some of the more purist elite theorists have such a dim view of electoral participartion because the British state in particular has been and continues to be so effective in containment. From difficulties in practice in Britain some things are declared futile from the beginning everywhere and at all times in history with mathematical certainty. That conclusion is, I think, way overdrawn.
In any case, I sincerely hope that the well-meaning people in the British online dissident scene - and I would count AA and you, Mr. Morgoth, as first and foremost among these - can overcome this discord.
I warned him about those people, repeatedly.
This article will probably be all I say on the matter because I hate this type of content and discourse.
I think we are all about to be overtaken by events.
We are facing an energy cliff, food riots, massive civil unrest, and WW3. I have always been convinced the violence will come from the migrants and the left, not the 'far-right' as the DT tells it. The left, the migrants (who are probably heavily armed and organized already), will be the first to kick it off.
What you need is the right mind set. You have to be ready to lose everything and move forward immediately. You are dealing with hordes of people who only know war, killing, and destruction--not building for the future or maintaining anything. (Cue the complexity crisis which evidenced itself last week at the airports in the UK). You have to be ready to accept that your world is about to change and might not return to any kind of normal in your lifetime. Accept that, and you will way ahead of everyone else.
I have.
Yes, I think those Middle Eastern chickens are finally coming home to roost, and it'll probably dominate the rest of the year.
And it is only September.
It was MW who said at the end of last year's Millennial Yule regarding 2026, 'Good luck, everyone.'
France.
And it is only the beginning of October.
And with 3rd world migrants holding political office in France (like the rabble rousing mayor of Saint Denis) more trouble is on the horizon.
My thoughts precisely.
All this drama strikes me as urban wank. No different to the leftists debating the labour theory of value while never having had a proper job.
Back in the real world, the normie boomers in my village have been shaken to the core during the holidays by Sikh couples turning up from Birmingham and Coventry looking for houses out here in remotest Devon; citing increasing religious tensions and safety issues as Islam flexes its territorial power up norf.
They are even meeting to plan how to make the village sustainable and resilient against the civil war and/or WW3.
Did they welcome the Sikhs, or resent their presence? Be interested to know if people's concerns stretch to them after the Nowak shenanigans. They have big families, so when one family moves in...
It’s near wall to wall LibDem down here Spiff, so one would think that an excess of soggy thinking and misplaced empathy would mean a welcome for the Sikhs. It didn’t.
Post-holiday pub and church talk revealed concerns arising from the Novak killing: the “Sikhs are the good browns” myth seems to have died along with poor Novak.
I am surprised (and frankly, relieved) to find a hitherto carefully hidden ethnic awareness among my neighbours. Worries about a house price collapse are of course near the front of minds too but by no means exclusively.
They see the destruction of their genteel market towns as well: fourteen Turkish barbers and a vape shop on every corner in towns of a few of thousand. They can no longer fool themselves it’s not happening.
We have Somalians living in the rare instances of social housing. Since everyone knows everyone round here they know whose kids and grandkids are on the housing list, newborns, toddlers and all, and it angers folk. Quite rightly.
With the “rub their noses in diversity” program this government is pursuing, wittingly or unwittingly, it appears it’s doing sterling job of recruiting for Restore.
I remember Carl Benjamin saying that the Lib Dems are in fact the party who represents the white British (or middle England at least), though they themselves would never frame it that way. Always thought there's something to that. I'm from an area that generally votes Lib Dem for local council and used to have one as the MP for many years. It's 'Refugees welcome...but just not in our nice area round here.'
LibDems to Restore seems like quite a jump, lol. But glad to see even Middle England is waking up. We may save Blighty yet.
And I think the Sikhs took a beating thanks to Nowak. They are also casualties of the scale of immigration. Many have predicted colour blindness only really happens when you are 98 percent homogenous. Once you are heading for minority status that indulgence is jettisoned. The Sikhs have hardly been a burden but I doubt they will do well when things collapse.
Agree wholeheartedly with the piece, especially the motte and bailey comment. Out of a desire to avoid catiness, I'll withhold my views on most of the elite theory gang, but I do like and respect Neema and think he's had many interesting and novel theories over the years (or at least, good meta-analyses of historical thinkers' theories). That said, he's human like us all, and slipping into mere rhetoric has long been a regrettable feature of his argumentation style.
The unstated assumption of the elite theorists is that Restore-adjacent people think we're going to achieve full regime change. I don't know a single person who thinks that outside of the boomers and the proles. No one who's been in the elite theory space for the past decade is saying we'll achieve actual regime change. We can look at instances of regime change throughout history and see the preconditions: the regime must have reached such a point of collapse that it cannot effectively run its security apparatus or provide bread and circuses for the proles, then an (usually) armed revolution rotates its elite (usually) by force. We quite obviously are not in that state in modern Britain, and I don't think anyone outside of 'Tommo' types pretends we are.
This means the various criticisms telling us the certainty of oligarchy in a regime in the current mode are entirely irrelevant. No one claims otherwise. Lowe's or others' character is wholly irrelevant to this point: it is a structural question of the mode of the regime, not a question of its opposition. There is much I am tempted to say here about how the now -- usually insultingly -- presented arguments against Restore bear little relation to Neema's original reasons for supporting it, but I will again attempt to maintain a line against catiness.
So why do those of us who support Restore continue to support it? This should be blindingly obvious to the elite theorists, but apparently it requires spelling out. To anyone soberly analysing the financial trajectory of the American Empire and its satellites it is clear that it is in its last days. 'AI' is a desparate last attempt to make the maths work, and as someone with professional insider knowledge of that field, I would bet large amounts of money that it isn't going to make the maths work. That means the regime will eventually, and probably within our lifetimes, enter the mode necessary for regime change: the funds will run out, the onerously expensive security state will be defunded, and so too will the bread and circuses.
When that happens, the most organised and determined group will seize power. Restore gives a vehicle for such likeminded people to get together in the safe hugbox of liberal democracy and forge these connections now. No, real change cannot be effected right now, but those same action-oriented relationships can be used to effect change when the conditions are right. This, indeed, is the theory of the basketweavers groups. Restore is just a more action-oriented continuation of the theme. In the interim, in the unlikely chance we should manage to achieve 'power' within democracy, we could at least take action to make conditions more favourable in the inevitable end; fewer foreingers, fewer power nodes for our enemies.
The utility of this should be obvious, but to some it appears that if we can't have Lenin there's no point in any of it. This is just as juvenile and low impulse as supporting Glowie Tommo because "he's doing something now". The regime change is decades away, but it's coming, and sniping on the internet isn't going to provide sufficient organisation when it does come.
All of this. Over here even Normie is increasingly aware that the economic rot is too deep to be reversed, to whatever little degree that matters. Serious people are organizing without illusion about durability of the system. Yes, the process may take decades, but the beating heart of the Empire very well could implode relatively soon and suddenly along the lines of the old USSR. The UK/continental Europe will have a heads up if that happens, which is quite possible, and hopefully can take advantage of it.
Missed hearing from you last month or so Morgoth. Enjoyed the article and you make a lot a valid points. You underestimate how much of a comfort some of your takes or musings have been over last decade or so. I have found them invaluble
Older I get the more averse I to drama. This is the toxic shit I had to endure decades ago when working in office full of middle aged women. Growing up in 80s never rememeber seeing grown men engaged in this behaviour. Social Media drama to make 'content' just degrades all involved... Poisoned Chalace
I guess it boils down to a sense of Loyalty/Trust/ Empathy vs Ego/Pride and need to be seen as 'called it'. The Scrump guy and Trans type couple - barely watched before. Watching the stream w AA took immediate dislike.... They remind me of snarky Reddit posters. AA is an academic though. If you have ever worked with them, they have a blind spot for those speak similar language to them (even when it is clear they are not well intentioned) - Academic autism of sorts.
AA has always spoken very highly of you. Rare that he doesn't mention some of your articles or posts or insights. As I said, I agree with all you have said in this article. AA has been short sighted, insensitive and his instincts on this have been ill judged (but we are all human). I geniunely don't think there was malicious intent (particularly toward you). The academic 'soy crowd' are a bad influence - not because their theories are RIGHT/WRONG but because of their behaviour does not relfect good character or intent.
Be shame to see two my favourite commentators fall out.
Hope to hear from you in 3 weeks!!!
Your point about loyalty is very good.
This drama also serves for me to underline the spiritual value of compassion. The people in AA's circle, including AA himself, often express themselves with a lack of compassion for other thinkers, activists and patriots. Calling people morons, calling everything slop. It sounds like a bitter old man in a high tower, clinging to delusions of intellectual superiority. "But I'M the galaxy brain!! I have the blueprints!!". Nationalism is becoming popular and that means that people with less developed intellect, including younger people, are getting into it. The effort to spit down on these people is not something I approve of personally. I'm really not interested in unsympathetic critiques of "The Right"- as you said in the piece Morgoth, we're doomed enough as it is.
As you said, when you boil it down, most of the insights of advanced political analysis can be distilled down to simple truisms which most people who ponder the subject for a few years, are going to arrive at anyway. Organized groups prevail over unorganized masses. Most populist parties are heavily infiltrated. Duh.
The solution to this problem we are facing, is so vast and protean. It cannot be accurately foreseen. It's heavily linked with elements of the spiritual, the fantastical, the collective subconscious, and numerous egregores. It's a world-historical problem of the greatest proportions, the battle for the future of the Western World. We can't really chart its course or say when it will finally end. We can't say if we will prevail, or be completely destroyed, or something in between. Accepting this state of unknowing is important for maintaining the intellectual humility to just put one foot in front of the other, day by day. I don't have the blueprints, you don't have the blueprints, nobody knows who will be living in our cities, 100 years from now. Will it be us, or some other people-group? But we keep going in faith and love and loyalty.
My sympathy for the common man is another area where I tend to disagree with the elite theorists, though it's less inflammatory than this article. I do not think they're just mindless potatoes, and I think there's a genuine sense of terror and dread spreading through the population that matters.
I too have this. I feel a much stronger affinity for the masses than theorists or the managerial class that has emerged in my lifetime. All around me I see many working people, the backbone of our society. Truly irreplaceable, and often doing jobs you never see imports do anyway. If they are destroyed everything goes with it.
I dislike the disdain some on the right have for normal people not getting it, not understanding the detail, hoping Farage and Reform will reverse immigration, sharing Tommy Robinson videos etc. They are normal, they are living their lives, not reading up on elite theory. They are doing their best to make sense of a senseless situation.
I think some are too quick to dismiss others in an attempt to appear superior. We see this a lot with progressives. You are against immigration because you are a bigot and therefore dismissible. Arrogance is a disability.
That sense of terror and dread is a genuine change in the psychology of our peoples. (I'm in America, but the same thing is happening). The prosperity and safety which our peoples have enjoyed for maybe 500 years, maybe much more, now sees the first appearance of a credible threat.
It changes the waters in which we swim, and the future potentials across the board.
That sympathy for the common man is what distinguishes your work. It is sincere. The way in which my generation, (I’m a tail end boomer to my shame) and the one following have effectively divorced themselves from their working class and ethnic roots disgusts me, even though anyone with half an education realizes almost everyone was, of necessity, a peasant. The bourgeoisie was a small class that grew from nothing at a pretty recent date.
What happens to the common man is what happens to us. They are not going to ask our IQ before whatever horrible fate befalls us if it comes to that.
During Covid the Canadian truckers came closest to teaching the bourgeoisie how much they relied on working class men doing jobs they don't spend any time thinking about. I am convinced that is why we now see so many Indians in that field.
Are they causing as many accidents over there as they are here? It used to be that you could be very confident of the driving skills of truckers. Now they wobble and scare the daylights out of you on high speed roads.
Very true.
Very astute on the extra dimension at work (the spiritual, the fantastical).
I see it as a variant of Pascal's Wager: if we are doomed, you don't lose that much by entertaining cautious hope within a probability matrix; if we aren't all doomed, you potentially lose everything by refusing to even try to win. It's also not as black & white as the Elite Wankers make out, hope and trust exist on a broad spectrum, not as a 0 or 100% binary. The Wankers like to present anyone who supports Restore as a credulous Two Tommies clown, but for me at least it was always cat-stepping, 80% low expectations, 20% hope, there's no way I would attend a Two Tommies rally, nor did I expect Lowe could staff Restore with Thomas777 disciples.
Still got love for AA, never had any for the weirdos, I'm sure they're smart, smarter and better read than me, but I can get smart takes elsewhere without the smug weirdness.
Incidentally the Two Tommies are obviously bad actors but they can't totally control the theatre, the audience may well take away some useful ideas in spite of the overall intent.
I think Restore's main usefulness is pushing the Overton window and giving people something to share with normies.
I know normal people are follwing Lowe on social platforms. People online are far too quick to dismiss this, including AA who seems to view the online world as nothing more than an echo chamber. But we forget most are clueless. They have no concept even of immigration volumes, a fairly simple concept and yet it is obscured by the mainstream.
The vast majority have never heard a good argument against immigration as the regime narrative is everywhere, from posters to announcements to soap opera plotlines. For many it is shocking to read respectable people want to reverse immigration and this plants a seed. I think we overlook the importance of this work. Many need help to wake up. Dismissing it as useless because Lowe won't get 500 MPs at the next election misses the point.
Agree, I also think the Tommo thing is useful in presenting the idea that immigration is invasion, that our police and government are against us. Sure, it's probably intended as a honeypot, to justify crackdowns, harsh new laws etc, but it's also seeding vivid impressions of invasion and the need for white men to organise and stand together against not merely the invaders but our own government. The regime cannot manage perceptions 100%.
I don't think Restore will ever get into power, but it's as well to remember the AfD was at about 13% recently, and is now almost double that nationally, up to 40% in Sachsen-Anhalt. And as you say, even if Restore stay at 7% they are useful as a goad to Farage.
I agree. The regime cannot manage everything. Also they do cock it up sometimes. Look at those anti-rape leaflets the Home Office produced. Total own goal. So even a honeypot operation may not go as intended.
I also think our current batch of leaders are genuinely third-rate. So I have no belief they can maintain things for much longer. The very aggressive promotion of non-natives is ruffling many feathers. That is making people uncomfortable despite the hype. Being lectured by people from Liberia and Ghana is astonishing.
I think immigration has to be seen as vulgar for it to begin to go away. Also importing from the third world has to be seen as us exploiting them for the majority to turn against it. It gives normal people an out.
By the way, Morgoth, if you ever do Excalibur with Endeavour, think of the Elite Wankers when Perceval enters the plague-ridden village and encounters Mad Lancelot, Lancelot has abandoned the order and become a prophet of doom, he is enraged when he sees Perceval as his erstwhile squire has stayed true to the quest. I've found that the dooomers and Denethors are often full of hatred and contempt, not for the orcs but for those who still fight, still hope.
As Perceval puts it later, ironically enough in a Welsh accent, "I can't give up hope, Lancelot: it's all I have."
We're doing it next.
I agree. Pessimism brings a simplicity that is mistaken for clarity. It artificially obscures the ambiguities real life brings by dismissing them. Defeat is never certain. Few predicted the fall of the Soviet Union even near the end.
Good observation about the hate. I have often wondered why some on the right seem like this. They perhaps envy the fighting spirit in others they no longer possess like an old woman condemning some pretty younger woman.
One would think, that creatives sensitive to "slop" or especially the dreaded "slopulism" would themselves attempt to avoid engaging in such counterproductive behavior, but something something revealed preferences.
Been watching AA for years, still got time for his work but been watching much less lately. I soured on Scrump and Evelyn some years ago. The latter in particular, they called me out in a YT stream because I said something like 'Toby Young's Lockdown Skeptics website kept me sane during the coof'. There's many valid criticisms of Young and the Free Speech Union, but that organisation is more than those two have ever built. And I remember AA stating that the FSU really helped him when he lost his job in academia.
I can't stand 'fell for it again', something really spiteful about it. I don't hate the normal people who go to Tommy rallies, put up the flags, vote for Trump or Reform. Even if those people are cringe, misguided or obnoxious. I don't see the answer to be simping for Jeremy Corbyn or the Green Party or any other clear enemies. I'm all for realism, but there's a point at which it tips into nihilism. There's a lot to be said for moderating interaction with the news & politics, be it on here, youtube, twitter. It's something I increasingly find myself doing. But complete retreat and withdrawal can't be the answer. The illegal migration issue can be all slop and kayfabe, until they're in your street. Maybe even in leafy Surrey...
With as long as you’ve been at this it’s felt absurd seeing the lack of respect and bad faith. I’ve read Populist Delusion and Prophets of Doom, but I don’t read those books without Morgoth essays first. Scrump and Evelyn are fine analysts, I can look past the lifestyle, but this flame war is worse.
Thank you for highlighting all of this, Morgoth.