Excellent point on solutions. But one thing to touch upon is the excuse our welfare systems need them. I believe it was Denmark and Norway that published data showing third world immigrants cost much more in benefits than anything they ever contribute, even at prime working age. Bringing them in never made economic sense. There is no excuse.
The costs to the benefits system are passed onto us. I think the real issue is financing debt. That doesn't make sense either, except on paper and theoretically.
The only way to help with debt would be if they contributed and created more than they cost. That's not happening. Especially when factoring in all the welfare fraud on top of their need for welfare plus justice system costs and societal disruption.
A lot of people in the west with an average IQ of 100 are struggling to survive. It's common sense that all these people brought in with an IQ of 85 and lower are going to struggle more and will need state sponsorship (direct or laundered through NGOs). Which brings us back to the risks you raise in this piece when their subsidies get cut off.
Yes but the issue is debt financing. If, for example, Rachel Reeves announced in the budget that there would no new people coming to the UK for the next five years, the bond market would ask how the debt will paid with fewer people. They only see numbers.
The conclusion they would make would be that we had become a risky bet, and then raise the interest on the debt.
This, according to Boris Johnson, is why we got the 'Boriswave' the Bank of England forced him to.
If we then begin talking about mass deportations, shrinking the population, the issue becomes so severe that it'd crash the economy.
Fundamentally, we are not in control of our finances, Global Finance is.
In the Elder Futhark, the Gebo ("gift") rune precedes Wunjo ("joy", the prosperity of a community). Gifting, generosity, was the basis of feudal life, e.g. "lord" etymologically means "bread giver". Shift away from quantifiable exchange, from the mercenary and calculating, to a Robin Hood society where strong brotherhood removes the need for contracts, where you give (goods, work, expertise) out of an inner abundance of spirit, and this naturally prompts return in some fashion.
Beautifully written. One needs to develop skills in this new world to be able to take part in a local, bartering, economy. Everything from being able to fix a dripping faucet to becoming master tradesmen. Scratch baking and cooking have also been neglected skills as have sewing and alterations. How many clothes are tossed because of the inability or unwillingness to sew on a button or patch?
Many ways for men and women to contribute to local wellbeing. Hard times can be a blessing if they remove the mists of the internet from our eyes and reveal what is really before us.
If we’re going to suffer anyway we may as well get rid of debt based currencies and build something around productivity. Do that and all appeals to GDP ( really numbers up = we can borrow more, at interest) are null and void . We’ll be suffering towards something and debt free .
Most of the diverse population are only here for the benefits and free stuff. Those people won't hang around if the money dries up and things get tough . Economic collapse may be the solution to multiculturalism.
This is a bittersweet read. Round my neck of the woods, the old community has been receding and dying for decades and the replacements have formed their own networks.
Pubs of my 90s youth are probably 75% closed and the few remaining likely won't last. Weird yogurt/ice-cream bars or Sainsbury's Locals , vape shops or barbers seem to pop up every month.
Anecdotes like this are the Clarkson's Farm of online discourse. Simple, heartwarming, something I didn't know I lacked. I'd love to hear more of this out there and get a few similar stories under my own belt.
We will survive. We can all see the the idiocy of this latest forever war. There are not any surprises here. Nothing wrong with bartering, cuts out the tax man who spends too much of our coin on Bomalians.
One of my sons works in horticulture. He uses buckets with peat soil to grow potatoes. Last year he grew kondors, they were perfect, not a bit of blight. He gave plenty away to people in our street. Our neighbour has an allotment, I receive texts from late spring to early autumn with "there is a bag on the fence for you". I am never disappointed with what's in it. Although it's nowhere near enough produce to sustain us, it is the fact the reciprocation occurs without complication and external encroachment.
I wouldnt be too worried. Most of the new immigrants will be entirely helpless without the state/economic apparatus supporting them. It will be hard, but if history is anythign to go by the urban mass usually departs once the empire can no longer support it, looking for remaining imperial cities to parasite off.
And where will the go? Paris? Rome? Berlin? Those places are bust, too. And they won't go back to India or Zimbabwe. (Unfortunately) No, I don't see that happening in a breakdown crisis.
All migrations will most likely lead east to Russia and its sphere of influence. They will hold on longer than everyone else.
The problem with the raid/crime theory is they have zero skills in a hyper specialised time period, so pure violence will lead to little gains. The warbands who take over at the end are independent types who operate outside the imperial economic system. The current crop of immigrants are completely dependent on the things they will be attacking. They will have to go searching for another host.
Perhaps they will go back to Pakistan, India, or any of the African countries they came from because they have family there, family they have probably been sending some of our money (welfare) to. Those countries are at least warm, they speak the language - there are reasons why they might return, although, I agree, some, perhaps most, won’t. But what is left for them here once the money runs out?
Perhaps - but if we are all impoverished maybe there won’t be much worth stealing. And maybe, maybe because of such crime, there will be more pressure on whoever is in government to deport them…I think we really can’t predict the future, except to say what can’t continue won’t continue.
Excellent point on solutions. But one thing to touch upon is the excuse our welfare systems need them. I believe it was Denmark and Norway that published data showing third world immigrants cost much more in benefits than anything they ever contribute, even at prime working age. Bringing them in never made economic sense. There is no excuse.
The costs to the benefits system are passed onto us. I think the real issue is financing debt. That doesn't make sense either, except on paper and theoretically.
The only way to help with debt would be if they contributed and created more than they cost. That's not happening. Especially when factoring in all the welfare fraud on top of their need for welfare plus justice system costs and societal disruption.
A lot of people in the west with an average IQ of 100 are struggling to survive. It's common sense that all these people brought in with an IQ of 85 and lower are going to struggle more and will need state sponsorship (direct or laundered through NGOs). Which brings us back to the risks you raise in this piece when their subsidies get cut off.
Yes but the issue is debt financing. If, for example, Rachel Reeves announced in the budget that there would no new people coming to the UK for the next five years, the bond market would ask how the debt will paid with fewer people. They only see numbers.
The conclusion they would make would be that we had become a risky bet, and then raise the interest on the debt.
This, according to Boris Johnson, is why we got the 'Boriswave' the Bank of England forced him to.
If we then begin talking about mass deportations, shrinking the population, the issue becomes so severe that it'd crash the economy.
Fundamentally, we are not in control of our finances, Global Finance is.
Bringing them in to fix our finances is like selling products below cost and hoping to make up for it with volume.
But as you mention, Global Finance is unfortunately in control.
Exactly, one giant Ponzi scheme.
Winter is coming.
In the Elder Futhark, the Gebo ("gift") rune precedes Wunjo ("joy", the prosperity of a community). Gifting, generosity, was the basis of feudal life, e.g. "lord" etymologically means "bread giver". Shift away from quantifiable exchange, from the mercenary and calculating, to a Robin Hood society where strong brotherhood removes the need for contracts, where you give (goods, work, expertise) out of an inner abundance of spirit, and this naturally prompts return in some fashion.
Beautifully written. One needs to develop skills in this new world to be able to take part in a local, bartering, economy. Everything from being able to fix a dripping faucet to becoming master tradesmen. Scratch baking and cooking have also been neglected skills as have sewing and alterations. How many clothes are tossed because of the inability or unwillingness to sew on a button or patch?
Many ways for men and women to contribute to local wellbeing. Hard times can be a blessing if they remove the mists of the internet from our eyes and reveal what is really before us.
Zoe Gardner "Comrades, we must import infinite browns and continue to suppress wages...for the GDP!"
I'm a millennial and I've long assumed I won't get any pension from the state.
If we’re going to suffer anyway we may as well get rid of debt based currencies and build something around productivity. Do that and all appeals to GDP ( really numbers up = we can borrow more, at interest) are null and void . We’ll be suffering towards something and debt free .
Ive heard someone else did that once.
That was a fantastic article particularly the paragraph about the Satanic bargain our civilisation has made.
I liked this a lot. It's got an 'anarcho mutual' nationalism flavour to it. :)
Always the Voice of my People.
Most of the diverse population are only here for the benefits and free stuff. Those people won't hang around if the money dries up and things get tough . Economic collapse may be the solution to multiculturalism.
Hell may be better than purgatory. Hopefully the necessary ill's can be cured.
This is a bittersweet read. Round my neck of the woods, the old community has been receding and dying for decades and the replacements have formed their own networks.
Pubs of my 90s youth are probably 75% closed and the few remaining likely won't last. Weird yogurt/ice-cream bars or Sainsbury's Locals , vape shops or barbers seem to pop up every month.
It's rough out here.
Anecdotes like this are the Clarkson's Farm of online discourse. Simple, heartwarming, something I didn't know I lacked. I'd love to hear more of this out there and get a few similar stories under my own belt.
We will survive. We can all see the the idiocy of this latest forever war. There are not any surprises here. Nothing wrong with bartering, cuts out the tax man who spends too much of our coin on Bomalians.
One of my sons works in horticulture. He uses buckets with peat soil to grow potatoes. Last year he grew kondors, they were perfect, not a bit of blight. He gave plenty away to people in our street. Our neighbour has an allotment, I receive texts from late spring to early autumn with "there is a bag on the fence for you". I am never disappointed with what's in it. Although it's nowhere near enough produce to sustain us, it is the fact the reciprocation occurs without complication and external encroachment.
Security will be the biggest issue, more so than even having food.
Across the West, the welfare class is about to lose life support, and they will react the only way they know how: with violence and theft
I wouldnt be too worried. Most of the new immigrants will be entirely helpless without the state/economic apparatus supporting them. It will be hard, but if history is anythign to go by the urban mass usually departs once the empire can no longer support it, looking for remaining imperial cities to parasite off.
And where will the go? Paris? Rome? Berlin? Those places are bust, too. And they won't go back to India or Zimbabwe. (Unfortunately) No, I don't see that happening in a breakdown crisis.
All migrations will most likely lead east to Russia and its sphere of influence. They will hold on longer than everyone else.
The problem with the raid/crime theory is they have zero skills in a hyper specialised time period, so pure violence will lead to little gains. The warbands who take over at the end are independent types who operate outside the imperial economic system. The current crop of immigrants are completely dependent on the things they will be attacking. They will have to go searching for another host.
Perhaps they will go back to Pakistan, India, or any of the African countries they came from because they have family there, family they have probably been sending some of our money (welfare) to. Those countries are at least warm, they speak the language - there are reasons why they might return, although, I agree, some, perhaps most, won’t. But what is left for them here once the money runs out?
They will turn to crime.
Perhaps - but if we are all impoverished maybe there won’t be much worth stealing. And maybe, maybe because of such crime, there will be more pressure on whoever is in government to deport them…I think we really can’t predict the future, except to say what can’t continue won’t continue.
I hope you are right, Marion.
Me too😉