What irritates about Gaza issue is that there is much conflation of Israel's right to exist with its existence being the foundation of Western Civilisation. It is not.
More importantly, the right of Palestinians to live on their lands is much closer to the rights idea of a nation state. That is due to the fact that Palestinians, as it has been established by DNA research, are closer descendants of ancient tribes of Israel, than Ashkenasi, that are the majority of jewish population. With this fact in hand, to deny Palestinians right to live on the land of their ancestors, the way Israel is doing, is the same as denying English or other European nations the right to exist on the land of their ancestors.
And this sentiment is not due to love of others, but precisely because of self interest that all Europeans should have. Acknowledging Palestinians' right to exist on their land means that I as European what to live on the land of my ancestors AND I don’t want Palestinians, or other non-Europeans, as my neighbours.
I fail to see anyone pick up this frame, at best I see that both groups are no friend of Europeans, which is true, but it is also too shallow to counteract the desire of the elites to swarm us with non-Europeans.
The only thing Glastonbury showed, or I should say reconfirmed, is who is most definitely an enemy on the so-called right, but that changes nothing without proper frame for us and our interests.
The young lady in that clip reminds me of the large groups who gather in my city centre every weekend to proclaim their support for Palestine. Seeing them draped in the flag of a foreign country which they have almost certainly never visited, know little about other than what they read on social media, and in many cases probably couldn’t point to on a map leaves me constantly bewildered. Then there is the smaller group who counter that by flying Isreal flags and for whom all of the above also applies.
All of this while their own city and country crumbles around them and they literally step over people sleeping on their own streets on a daily basis. Just when I think we have reached the peak of clown land we seem to discover a new peak, and I can only ponder about what could be achieved if all of their energy and effort was directed into something that actually mattered to them.
In addition to what you've said I note that this little poser is wearing both a red/white & a black/white shemagh/kaffeya/whatever name you want to give it. I remember reading a while ago that the different colours are significant towards various groups/nations. What she has on is similar to me wearing a Manchester United strip and a Chelsea hat. Basically these twats are saying "I'm cosplaying as a dangerous Arab terrorist but I haven't got a fucking clue enough to Google which one". These traitors sicken me but not enough for me to support the other middle Eastern group.
I, as a leftie leaner, find myself treading murky waters in present day political labellism. Do we have say a woke rightist or woke centrist or just plain woke. Is it right or left to want Brexit, sovereignty and a constitution which upholds life, liberty and freedom of the individual. Try being me in Northern Ireland i.e so called Republic part, where everywhere you turn, you are tarred and feathered with racist or looney-left label and none are sure what to make of you.
Indeed, it is my contention that the upperclass rather gormless girl by the banks of the murky Thames, is intentional. It is symbolic of our time, where establishment has infiltrated and control the left and right spectrum be it trade unions, political parties, terrorists groups, freedom fighters, religion. It is designed that way to demoralise, divide and conquer the people and keep us treading water.
10/10 article Morgoth. A Phil Taylor bullseye if you will.
I have been watching with some interest as the political class squirm when confronted with Gaza. Immediately after Oct 7 every politician chanted that Israel “has a right to defend itself” like windup dolls. They didn’t however know how far the “Light unto Nations” would take it. Post WW2 the first thing they did was consolidate power in western countries and undermine ethnic nationalism, or control it and lead it down a cul de sac. Now the chosen are being squeezed from the far left Frankenstein who are laughably branded as left wing anti-Semites…and must be given corporal punishment and sent into the hall with the bad kids of the dissident/radical right. I also amusingly think of it like a mass bar brawl in a country and western or Patrick Swayze’s Road House with the Left now going to start swinging at the bar owner (let’s call him Goldstein for effect) and his bouncers (all western lackey politicians). Interesting times though isn’t it.
Haha I am enjoying the chaos. I can't believe how far the left go. I watched a Jimmy Dore clip where he was saying it's ''time for them to go back to Poland''.
As is said power is top down, but what happens when those at the top don't have any ideas as to what direction should be taken and those at the bottom do have ideas but refuse on principle to be lead by the nose. Then what?
I suspect that the points brought up by Imperium Press will carry more weight over the coming years than anything else anyone has said, regarding the Tribalisation of Britain into a mass of rivail folks all fighting for control of land.
That is what is to come I suspect. There is no way off the train until it derails itself, no peaceful way out this time. Prepare or prepare for your death.
It's mad how much this issue has come to dominate the culture. If you told me 10 years ago that Gary Lineker would end up quitting the BBC because he ran his mouth about the middle east, I wouldn't have believed you. On AA's stream the other day Horus mentioned he'd been to Glastonbury back in the day, and the same political elements were there but off to the side. Now it's unavoidable.
At times it feels like we are in the 'Woke North Korea'. Went in my local supermarket last month and it was covered in rainbow flags, they even stuck little ones on the self service checkouts. Watched the England v India cricket and the pride branding was on display. I think this is the 'laggard' organisations lagging behind the curve. It didn't surprise me at all that a traditional brand like Jaguar went woke, just as woke was getting played out. I'm doubtful I'll ever walk into Tescos and see a Palestinian flag flying, but these days who knows!
PS also 10 years ago I would have likely been agreeing with those centre right commentators on Israel. Not any more...
"The idea that a movement can be relegated to obscurity because its institutional and corporate incentives have been severed is, in my view, becoming a flawed perspective."
Yes! Well done.
The very idea that Woke or any other ideology has an on/off switch is absurd. It is quite common for an Establishment-encouraged control mechanism to vex its creators. Once the seed is planted, money and propaganda can be turned off but the roots remain waiting to be watered again. There is no toggle, only pulling the thing up root and branch, which is quite messy.
As a related aside, has moderation ever served a long-term purpose other than eventual abdication to the Left? It's hard to think of such a case.
This seems a rare opportunity where nationalists can land a few telling blows on zionism. If natives really want their islands back, the first victory has to be over zionism. As long as it has power we are hamstrung.
I had to Google Zionism after reading because I still didn't know what it meant lol.
October 7th and Israel really were flashpoints. I don't follow any centrist channels or listen to neocons so the whole Pro-Israel stance to me is unusual and I don't know any Zionists or Pro-Israel people personally. At my church I remember prayers given out out loud on several occasions by one of the clergy for the Palestinians but not the same for the Israelis. As a Christian I really didn't like that.
For me, I didn't get involved with the whole information war around Israel/Gaza for the same reasons related to Ukraine/Russia: not my war, not my people. But it's become hard to breathe now in the political space with this flashpoint of Israel.
The thing about these pro-Islam Western women reminds me of a comment made by an Iranian woman how they've been given all these rights and freedoms yet don't know what to do with them. I've said before that Western women are just supporting/voting in kinks and fetish. And they'll still wonder why white men want nothing to do with them...
The Age of Woke, e.g. the Left’s shunting aside of economics in favor of more marketable wares, had passed through adolescence well before 2012. I see it as the rainbow bruise from a One-Two Punch.
This is a bit dated (2016) but documents the blows:
The Right has to get off the 'Zi0 plantation', once and for all.
What irritates about Gaza issue is that there is much conflation of Israel's right to exist with its existence being the foundation of Western Civilisation. It is not.
More importantly, the right of Palestinians to live on their lands is much closer to the rights idea of a nation state. That is due to the fact that Palestinians, as it has been established by DNA research, are closer descendants of ancient tribes of Israel, than Ashkenasi, that are the majority of jewish population. With this fact in hand, to deny Palestinians right to live on the land of their ancestors, the way Israel is doing, is the same as denying English or other European nations the right to exist on the land of their ancestors.
And this sentiment is not due to love of others, but precisely because of self interest that all Europeans should have. Acknowledging Palestinians' right to exist on their land means that I as European what to live on the land of my ancestors AND I don’t want Palestinians, or other non-Europeans, as my neighbours.
I fail to see anyone pick up this frame, at best I see that both groups are no friend of Europeans, which is true, but it is also too shallow to counteract the desire of the elites to swarm us with non-Europeans.
The only thing Glastonbury showed, or I should say reconfirmed, is who is most definitely an enemy on the so-called right, but that changes nothing without proper frame for us and our interests.
To be fair I do see this line of reasoning often, Greg Johnson and Keith Woods come to mind. It's a good point to make.
All of this creates a nice little vacuum for us to occupy with remigration and to impress upon the right of the JQ
Only those in the extreme fringes of the left and right are not surprised by any of this
The young lady in that clip reminds me of the large groups who gather in my city centre every weekend to proclaim their support for Palestine. Seeing them draped in the flag of a foreign country which they have almost certainly never visited, know little about other than what they read on social media, and in many cases probably couldn’t point to on a map leaves me constantly bewildered. Then there is the smaller group who counter that by flying Isreal flags and for whom all of the above also applies.
All of this while their own city and country crumbles around them and they literally step over people sleeping on their own streets on a daily basis. Just when I think we have reached the peak of clown land we seem to discover a new peak, and I can only ponder about what could be achieved if all of their energy and effort was directed into something that actually mattered to them.
In addition to what you've said I note that this little poser is wearing both a red/white & a black/white shemagh/kaffeya/whatever name you want to give it. I remember reading a while ago that the different colours are significant towards various groups/nations. What she has on is similar to me wearing a Manchester United strip and a Chelsea hat. Basically these twats are saying "I'm cosplaying as a dangerous Arab terrorist but I haven't got a fucking clue enough to Google which one". These traitors sicken me but not enough for me to support the other middle Eastern group.
Aye.....the cracks in the centrist Uniparty are growing ever bigger. It is a like a dam wall undergoing the early stages of structural failure.
I, as a leftie leaner, find myself treading murky waters in present day political labellism. Do we have say a woke rightist or woke centrist or just plain woke. Is it right or left to want Brexit, sovereignty and a constitution which upholds life, liberty and freedom of the individual. Try being me in Northern Ireland i.e so called Republic part, where everywhere you turn, you are tarred and feathered with racist or looney-left label and none are sure what to make of you.
Indeed, it is my contention that the upperclass rather gormless girl by the banks of the murky Thames, is intentional. It is symbolic of our time, where establishment has infiltrated and control the left and right spectrum be it trade unions, political parties, terrorists groups, freedom fighters, religion. It is designed that way to demoralise, divide and conquer the people and keep us treading water.
I'm reminded of Jonathon Bowden's observation that the system can co-opt everything except religious fundamentalism and ethnonationalism.
10/10 article Morgoth. A Phil Taylor bullseye if you will.
I have been watching with some interest as the political class squirm when confronted with Gaza. Immediately after Oct 7 every politician chanted that Israel “has a right to defend itself” like windup dolls. They didn’t however know how far the “Light unto Nations” would take it. Post WW2 the first thing they did was consolidate power in western countries and undermine ethnic nationalism, or control it and lead it down a cul de sac. Now the chosen are being squeezed from the far left Frankenstein who are laughably branded as left wing anti-Semites…and must be given corporal punishment and sent into the hall with the bad kids of the dissident/radical right. I also amusingly think of it like a mass bar brawl in a country and western or Patrick Swayze’s Road House with the Left now going to start swinging at the bar owner (let’s call him Goldstein for effect) and his bouncers (all western lackey politicians). Interesting times though isn’t it.
Haha I am enjoying the chaos. I can't believe how far the left go. I watched a Jimmy Dore clip where he was saying it's ''time for them to go back to Poland''.
As is said power is top down, but what happens when those at the top don't have any ideas as to what direction should be taken and those at the bottom do have ideas but refuse on principle to be lead by the nose. Then what?
I suspect that the points brought up by Imperium Press will carry more weight over the coming years than anything else anyone has said, regarding the Tribalisation of Britain into a mass of rivail folks all fighting for control of land.
That is what is to come I suspect. There is no way off the train until it derails itself, no peaceful way out this time. Prepare or prepare for your death.
It's mad how much this issue has come to dominate the culture. If you told me 10 years ago that Gary Lineker would end up quitting the BBC because he ran his mouth about the middle east, I wouldn't have believed you. On AA's stream the other day Horus mentioned he'd been to Glastonbury back in the day, and the same political elements were there but off to the side. Now it's unavoidable.
At times it feels like we are in the 'Woke North Korea'. Went in my local supermarket last month and it was covered in rainbow flags, they even stuck little ones on the self service checkouts. Watched the England v India cricket and the pride branding was on display. I think this is the 'laggard' organisations lagging behind the curve. It didn't surprise me at all that a traditional brand like Jaguar went woke, just as woke was getting played out. I'm doubtful I'll ever walk into Tescos and see a Palestinian flag flying, but these days who knows!
PS also 10 years ago I would have likely been agreeing with those centre right commentators on Israel. Not any more...
"The idea that a movement can be relegated to obscurity because its institutional and corporate incentives have been severed is, in my view, becoming a flawed perspective."
Yes! Well done.
The very idea that Woke or any other ideology has an on/off switch is absurd. It is quite common for an Establishment-encouraged control mechanism to vex its creators. Once the seed is planted, money and propaganda can be turned off but the roots remain waiting to be watered again. There is no toggle, only pulling the thing up root and branch, which is quite messy.
As a related aside, has moderation ever served a long-term purpose other than eventual abdication to the Left? It's hard to think of such a case.
Owen Jones assault the beach, personally commanding a battalion of the Rainbow Intifada to break the siege of Gaza.
This excites me to my Warrior Core, this is when Politics gets Bloody and more Interesting and time moves on! LETS GO!
Careful now, peaceful warrior cores and hopefully no blood as well.
This seems a rare opportunity where nationalists can land a few telling blows on zionism. If natives really want their islands back, the first victory has to be over zionism. As long as it has power we are hamstrung.
I had to Google Zionism after reading because I still didn't know what it meant lol.
October 7th and Israel really were flashpoints. I don't follow any centrist channels or listen to neocons so the whole Pro-Israel stance to me is unusual and I don't know any Zionists or Pro-Israel people personally. At my church I remember prayers given out out loud on several occasions by one of the clergy for the Palestinians but not the same for the Israelis. As a Christian I really didn't like that.
For me, I didn't get involved with the whole information war around Israel/Gaza for the same reasons related to Ukraine/Russia: not my war, not my people. But it's become hard to breathe now in the political space with this flashpoint of Israel.
The thing about these pro-Islam Western women reminds me of a comment made by an Iranian woman how they've been given all these rights and freedoms yet don't know what to do with them. I've said before that Western women are just supporting/voting in kinks and fetish. And they'll still wonder why white men want nothing to do with them...
The Jews created woke. Let them fix the problem themselves. I don't care.
The Age of Woke, e.g. the Left’s shunting aside of economics in favor of more marketable wares, had passed through adolescence well before 2012. I see it as the rainbow bruise from a One-Two Punch.
This is a bit dated (2016) but documents the blows:
https://claytestament.blogspot.com/2018/05/fakes-upon-fakes-why-left-has-become-so.html