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Nice little piece and quite personal to me. My dad (born 1949), the son of barefoot mill workers, ran away from Northern Ireland when he was 13 with his mate to find work in England. His dad (my grandad), who died from asbestosis before I was born, literally working himself to death in the mills. After working in factories in Manchester, my dad returned home at 16/17 to get his parents to sign his papers for the British army. My aforementioned grandad was Irish fiddling champion and, as well as boxing at local fairgrounds, he at one time or another played fiddle with, and sometimes against (in competition) some very famous Irish folk players, including Paddy Riley and members of the Furies.

My family, who even in the 60s still lived in two-room houses provided by the mill owners, literally worked themselves to death in mills and factories, for a pittance. My grandmother widowed, poor, and with 8 children (yes, in a two-room house), was given money by the famous Paddy Riley when he saw the dire poverty she and her relatives were living in (this is now the 70s). He simply couldn't believe that Protestants in the North (a group he had always been taught were privileged) were living in such poverty.

All that to say, your piece really resonated with me mate. You said, "If the English toiled away sustaining the Empire, the Irish story is one of struggling even to have a state." I would just highlight to your readers that the Irish also toiled away for the Empire. During the time period stated, the 19th century, Irishmen sometimes made up, up to 40% of the British army, and the Irish economy (even during famine) provided much to the cause of empire, especially Belfast, which became an industrial hub right up to and including the Second World War.

Thanks again for the piece and for allowing me to share a bit of my own history, which ties in well with it.

LadyofShalott's avatar

Lovely piece of writing Morgoth. The images painted by Lowry could just as easily have been the scenes at Harland and Wolff shipyard in Belfast, when the workers poured out at the end of the day. Generations of men in my family worked there. At the shipyard’s peak 30,000 were employed there - my great-grandfather worked on Titanic as a very young welder. I grew up in a terraced house that still had the old outside toilet - this was the 80s. The industrial scarring on Belfast was atrophied by the Troubles - the modernisation that came for cities in England just didn’t happen in Belfast until much later.

My grandparents used to listen to The Fureys and Davey Arthur a fair bit and the Dubliners. ‘Fields of Athenry’ was another classic that all us kids knew by heart. A big favourite was the legendary ‘Catch Me If You Can’ by Brendan Shine. Lisdoonvarna, County Clare is mentioned in that song, a town famous for hosting an annual match-making event (also referred to in the song). I have relatives who live there. Sadly, it’s now famous for its large migrant centre, inflicted on the local residents by the globalist Irish government. Changed times. https://youtu.be/qkvUbgmzDB8?si=0yXAcdl0hLex0jDk

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